My SCWC historical research

If we are studying the WCK history, you may find a lot of legends about the creation of wck, the

transmission of wck, the existence of the people around.... and etc.  Today, wck is becoming commericialized and more and more legends and people coming out.  Which are truth an which are fake, hard to know.  How to identify it ? Of course, we need put time to collect information and to study it.

To study history, we need to know what's happening in the past.  Today, wck no any documentary to saying the its own history, mostly verbally.    How do we find out the fact, at least we need to have some solid information today, then we can trace back to more and more decades ago, even the origin.

I observe one key point today wck researchers are missing to the civilized culture and the political culture in each generation.  Today, we realised WCK from redboat, but no people today relating wck with the Tai Ping Heavenly Kingdom.  Why the redboat being fired ? Why chinese opera being banned from 1855-1870?  How the redboat people survive in this period ? Why there are different pseudo stories and pseduo names coming out ? How come the wck can be transmissed in the situations ?  Why some lineages need to be hid ?  Why some other lineage could open to teach ?  Who is hiding ?  Who open to teach ?  Why? and How ?   More, today people intrepete the kuen kuit from today Chinese view, not from the ancient view.  Of course, a lot of differece meaning coming out.  As a good researcher, if really like to study the wck history, we need to study and analyse the collecting information based on what the culture at that moment is.  In the southern part of the China from 1800-1911, it was totally chaos because internal conflicts, a lot of uprisings and revolution and the external attacks by foreign countries forcing china to open the market for them.

Today, as you read the wck histories in the community, most only describe how this wck hero is and who that wck heroes are.  However, no one realize how the southern part of China was in that period.  Nothing more, they just concentrated on how good the arts is.  Does it mean they know wck  history?

 

Honestly, how many years you spend on the studying, collecting information, going through the history in GuangDong at that period, knowing the china culture at that moment, how many different dialects in the South China, how the transmission of kung fu in that period, people literate or not.  Any mis-understanding on different dialects via verbal transmission.......   How many of you can do that ? 

I stopped discussing scwc history openly because, people always why, how, and where the source from.  I had issued a lot of papers about scwc in the last 7 years on the magazines, all collected and put on the slideshare.net, people just like to simply ask and never going through the papers before asking even I refer them to read.   Honestly, 100 of you coming, then I need to write 100 times.

My paper on "Investigation of some forgotton Wing Chun Kuen history" has been issued in early 2014 and was totally validated by the Foshan Wushu History Research Centre and the Foshan WCK Oral History Research Centre.  They spend time to investigate, site visit the whole Foshan and down to Vietnam to get the son of Yuen Chai Wen to proof my paper.  Then last year, sending their people down to Hong Kong to interview me, and inviting me to visit our root of Snake Crane Wing Chun with the China media, Foshan TV, and finally broadcasting in the China National TV CCTV4.

Paper on "Investigation on some forgottonWing Chun Kuen history"

      

20151024 FoShan TV News

Snake Crane Wing Chun - CCTV4 FoshanSeekRoot

     

Honestly, the Foshan Mr. Tang Kwong Man, he is the chief government Wushu expert in Foshan, and he discovered Leung Jan exclusive picture in Leung Jan old house, sent people to turn the whole Foshan bottom-up to find SCWC root, and sending people to Vietnam to get more SCWC with YKS family.  He collected a bundle of real information about my third generation Law Tiu Wen and all getting proofed.

 

He is going to record SCWC to his government subsidized book "GuangDong Wushu History".   Can you do that if you are really a researcher, not gossiping?

My Investigation scwc history paper, from different point of views, reading a lot of history book, collecting information from Hung Mun, analyzing the Chinese characters meaning in our ancient note written by Law......., I spent over 20 years to come out. How many years and what you have done.

As what I mentioned above, I won't like to open to struggle any your history or my SCWC history.  I won't response anything and really get tired on arguing.

Author Wayne Yung

Why Snake Crane Wing Chun history is so important

A lot of people studyign history because they like to know what really happening in the past, and learnt from it. Just like some historical scholar, businessman, emperors, they can learn a lot from the past, how an empire was established, how to run the empire, how it can be strong, why it going down, and eventually collapsed.

Me too, I spent over 20 years on studying SCWC history, because I had a lot of doubts about my Snake Crane Wing Chun history. More, I also have a lot of questions on some other arts. The following key issues I cannot make myself believing
1. Was there any Southern Shaolin existing in the past ?
2. Why almost all the Southern arts, of course including Snake Crane Wing Chun are sourced from the Southern Shaolin and created by the same person, Abbot Chi Sin ? The arts are totally different ways to present and their creation dates may span over serveral hundred years. How can an abbot live over hundreds years and create different arts with totally different fighting ways?
3. In SCWC, the creation is split from the Snake Crane Fist to 3 forms set to train the Southern Shaolin guardian monks to fight again a Shaolin traitor, Ma Ling Yee ?

All these bringing me about our SCWC legend, and start my studying the history and the skills again since 1993.

Collecting information from the different legends make me more doubts on the Wing Chun histories, not really realistic. Ridiculously!

Five years ago, I started to publish papers on my studies piece by peice, and finally, my paper "Investigation of some forgotton Wing Chun Kuen history" had been issued in 2014. This paper floating around the different ways, via magazines in Hong Kong, Europe, some public forums and my websites and facebook pages to the public. Eventually, one of the reader, Mr. Tang Kwong Man, is the Chief historical expert of Foshan Wushu Historical Research Centre, he read the paper and tried to get me in 2014. Through Sifu Tam Kit Hung, who is the researcher from Foshan Wing Chun Oral History Research Centre, Mr. Tang eventually got me and asking about the content of my paper and Snake Crane Wing Chun. Then they went through the whole Foshan to get the root of Snake Crane Wing Chun. More, he also resolved some questions he cannot resolve from my paper, such as the traitor Ma Ling Yee, and the Abbot Chi Sin not a real person, just a belief from Confucian only.
In my study, based on the Snake Crane Wing Chun ancient documents and the forms themselves, we know why Snake Crane Wing Chun is for closed contact combat, who the traitor is. Why using Newly created no one known at that period close contact combat to deal with the open known long bridge big stance arts(Today, all know what scwc is). Today, scwc 3 forms are still maintained since it created. Then we can clearly see what the Snake Crane Wing Chun is.

Through the Snake Crane Wing Chun document, we also see what 'Chi Sin' is and explain why most southern arts they are created by Chi Sin.

More, how the term 'Wing Chun' coming out, what is its real meaning ? Why it is named Snake Crane Wing Chun, because it is splitted from "Snake Crane Fist", the long set SNT.

Last year, Mr. Tang Kwong Man invited us to Foshan to meet and to exchange. We had discussed a lot of my studying based on my scientific approach and scientific reasoning. Then we can see clearly what the evolution of the Snake Crane Wing Chun from the long set, Snake Crane Fist. How the Pao Fa Lin wck come with the long set and a lot of other southern arts, why Cheung Bo wck has only san siks which are the same techniques and application with SCWC, eventually the SCWC is formed without any knives and dummy at early stage.

Mr. Tang also showed me his kuen kuits finding of Snake Crane Fist. There are some common names appeared in the Snake Crane Fist and Snake Crane Wing Chun.

SCWC passed down to my generation is a legend only, like other southern arts. Without putting time on studying it, how come we understand the arts more and know more the applications of the forms. I know most people they just followed what sifu said without any reasoning TODAY, because they just care about how it can use to fight only.

Today, people like to add or to change the forms or techniques, because they don't really understand how it built up, starting from what point. Once you start in a wrong direction, you will totally lose what the arts giving you.

The usage of terms in Snake Crane Wing Chun are still maintained since it was created around 1860. The Chinese our ancestors are stilly using ancient Chinese, not today Chinese. If we don't realise this, by using today Chinese, sure may mis-intreprete them and understand wrongly.

An example here, SLT most people intreprete it as 'Little Idea' or other meanings because of these three Chinese characters.「小念頭 」
In ancient Snake Crane Wing Chun,
「小」 means "Little or Small"
「念」means "Concept"
「頭 」means "Beginning/Starting"
SLT means "Let begin/start from a small/little concept"
If you don't know what the historical is, sure you should not understand what SLT means.
What the small/little concept is ? It is using the concept "Close contact to deal with long bridge big stance"

Then you can see why SLT just stands as a jong instead of stance. Jong can built the Qi channel running smooth, then Jin can be issued, then application on combat. The three palms down and the wing foldings in the fourth session is for handling grabbling and the fifth section is used to handle the short striking.

Without understanding historical background, how come you know SLT really for close contact combat in 1860, not today. It is totally a conceptual close contact combat system.
Like the emperor in ancient, as they understand how an empire built up, becoming strong, going down, eventually collapse cycle from the past, then they will avoid doing the same. However, mostly as they are strong, they will forget, then following the cycle, then collapse.
Studying the arts history, we can also learn the same concepts. How and why the arts built, for what
However today, a lot of wck practitioners like to change it.

Author: Sifu Wayne Yung

Snake Crane Wing Chun Sil Lim Tau stance

All 3 forms set Sil Lim Tau stance is Yee Gee Kim Yeung Ma. Why we play the form with... this stance only, because it is for close contact combat only. We don't need any big move during combating.

For close contact combat, stability is the key issue. Without stability, offense and defense cannot be done perfectly. In offense, we need power generation. Most arts they generate power by making use of the body and more space is required. However, close contact cannot because of limited spacing.
Most internal arts including SCWC, they will use the soft body stance to let the body weight sinking into the ground to build up stability Then power can be easily borrowed from the ground, and lead the incoming force brought to the ground easily. That's why SCWC stance is soft.

Once with the correct posture of yjkym, then internal qi flows smoothly. As qi flowing smoothly, jin power can be easily generated on offense and incoming force can be easily brought to the ground on defense. Then we can apply to the techniques to deal with opponent. SCWC Lim Tau Song is totally describing this senerio, and also lead the SCWC slt form playing.

Author: Sifu Wayne Yung

SCWC Seminar in Montpellier-France

By Sifu Ridha LHIBA SCWC 7th Generation

« On Sunday 16 of October I gave a Snake Crane Wing Chun Seminar in Montpellier in the South/West of France

I did it following the invitation of my Disciple Stephan REMY, a Physiotherapist and a Wing Chun lover and practionnar.

The Seminar was very well running, some of the participants did wing chun already for many years and find SCWC Siu Nim Tao internal approch and Fighting strategy very interesting

Eventhough they were inthousiast, I find out that teaching and srpiding this wonderful art is not easy at all. It will take a lot of Effort to bring it to a  brighter audiance as it’s content is very subtile and deep. »

Taoists Principles inspired in Snake Crane Wing Chun

SCWC is a Taoist inspired ancient fighting System. It is the manifestation of Taoist principles in his two kind of hands.

Taoism is based on the Yin and Yang principles and their correlations

In SCWC The Snake hand represent the Yin aspect, it’s smooth, adaptable and taking the shape of any object it contacts.

The Crane hands represent the Yang Aspect. Solid, strong and it allows withstanding incoming force.

In the Taoist way, Yin contains Yang and Yang Contains Yin.

The same is on the snake Hands they have Speed and big range of motions wich is more a Yang aspect.

The Crane Hand (Arm) has to have great flexibility and harmony between the arm, body and floor to can absorb and release great power witch is more Yin Aspect.

 Only if we can combine these two different hands we can rich the harmony between Yin and Yang

Then we can be able to use SCWC in a real fight

In this video you can see a discussion around these principles that I realise with my students in France last Year

The video is in French with English subtitle.

Text and video from Ridha LHIBA 7th Generation (FR) Snake Crane Wing Chun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkkuRBOcYd8

First SNAKE CRANE WING CHUN Baisee ceremony in Germany

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 the first baisee ceremony of the SNAKE CRANE WING CHUN MUN took place in Germany with Björn and Stefan.

Baisee is a ceremony a student gets included in a Kung Fu family.

It is an old tradition of Chinese martial arts and has its roots in Confucianism. This particular tradition exists only in traditional Chinese martial arts.

After a Baisee ceremony Students turn from Yup Moon Dai Gee ("normal" students) to Yup Sut Dai Gee (in the back door skill son). The Yup Sut Dai Gee represents his Sifu, his school, his Mun (Kung Fu family) and his style.

Baisee also means to get rooted. In our Mun - the SNAKE CRANE WING CHUN MUN – we clearly know our ancestry from the founder up to now. Leung Lan Kwai (1^st generation) - Law Man Kung (2^nd generation) - Law Tiu Wen (3^rd generation) - Law Ting Chau (4^th generation) - Law Chiu Winh (5^th generation) - Yung Kwok Wing (6^th generation) - Thomas Klüh (7^th generation) - Björn and Stefan (8^th generation).

Having these roots means, firstly, to get all information unadulterated and complete and secondly, to be rooted energetically. Honestly, the energetic point of view is an esoteric aspect, which is very important for me.

Now, Björn and Stefan - next to Sabine (7^th Generation) – are the first German students, who will be a great enrichment to the SNAKE CRANE WING CHUN MUN. The ceremony itself was very private, so we don’t post videos or photos. But here are a few impressions after baisee:

Stefan, Björn, Sabine, Thomas and live from Hong Kong: My Sifu Wayne Yung, my Sihing Wallace, my Sihing Kay Yu, my Sihing Yung Him

Historical Research

 Sifu Wayne Yung, in his past of almost 20 years doing the research of history of SCWC. Also did the document ” Investigation on some forgotten WCK history” and seminar about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7xu71lGzZA

http://www.slideshare.net/ccwayne/scwc-investigation-onsomeforgottonwingchunkuenhistoryscwcykwaa

thanks for the effort of Sifu Wayne Yung. In 2014 SCWC earned the Cultural Intangible Asset in Hong Kong. In 2015, the Wushu Historical Research Center Mr. Tan Kong Man and Foshan Oral Wushu History research Center Mr. Tam Kit Hung invited Sifu Wayne Yung and the international disciples from Hong Kong, Singapore, France and Costa Rica to find the root of SCWC in the Law village.

This trip attract the local news paper and also the local TV news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncgX2deQ3i8

finally also get the attention of the international Chinese Channel CCTV4 !!

http://www.chinanews.com/ga/shipin/2015/11-12/news609359.shtml

the cultural base, make the development of the Chou Dynasty more than 700 years.

Cultivation of cultural root, is the best investment for our next generation.

Author: Lee Ming Fung

Salute from wing chun

The first three pictures show the salute form of the three Wing Chun lineages, Snake Crane Wing Chun, Ban Chung Wing Chun and Vietnam Wing Chun. The fist is holding vertically with the palm.

In Snake Crane Wing Chun, fist means "日day" and the palm means "月Moon". As they combine together, will form "明Ming", which means Ming dynasty. It is totally a sign of salute for the rebellions to recover Ming dynasty in the Qing dynasty from the redboat. Clearly, these three lineages are totally related to the redboat anit-qing movements. 

These salute form is different from the other general kung fu salute, the fourth picture, which the fist touching the palm, mean "five lakes four seas, all kung fu practitioners are brothers".